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The complete sentence is: "If science proves some belief of Buddhism wrong, then Buddhism will have to change. In my view, science and Buddhism share a search for the truth and for understanding reality. By learning from science about aspects of reality where its understanding may be more advanced, I believe that Buddhism enriches its own worldview."

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Buddhism has no problem with science. In fact, observation and analysis, i.e., scientific methods, are one of the key points in Buddhism. However, we Buddhists don't observe merely with scientific apparatus, but also our minds.

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Kev-dog Featured By Owner Jul 31, 2015
Wow, a religious leader I can respect.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2015  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Agreed :D
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
A rather unique position for a religious leader.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Because Buddhism is unique among religions :D
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fredrikslicer Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2014
improvements are allways welcome
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Doomblade2712 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2012
Science proves that life is "suffering" WRONG. It can be all happiness and joy and love etc. for some people... like me.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
do you mean "science" or "Buddhism"? Indeed science doesn't prove that life is suffering. In fact, science has nothing to do with our emotional state.

If you mean "Buddhism proves that life is suffering", well you may misunderstand what "suffering" in Buddhism means. The original word is "dukha", and it is better translated as unhappiness/unsatisfactoriness (now you have those, don't you?). Buddhism states that there is unhappiness/unsatisfatcoriness in our life. we always missing/lacking something. and indeed this dukha originates from wrong point of view. we are greedy, or we think that our health/money/etc are permanent. that's why when we lose them, we experience dukha. Buddhism teaches us to change this wrong point of view. and if you live a happy life, good for you. but in the end, you still have to leave your happy life (when you die), and it is still considered as a dukha.
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Doomblade2712 Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012
I am happy with whoever, whenever, whatever, wherever and however~ death is nothing but a concept I do not experience dukha at any level, and many people are waking up to the fact that we only experience suffering due to our own judgements whether it came from within or the society...
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hanciong Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
exactly. our unhappiness/unsatisfactoriness comes from our wrong point of view, and Buddha teaches us to systematically get rid of it, and change it into the correct point of view.
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Doomblade2712 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2012
Until we get rid of them all... I guess life is suffering no matter how little you may think the suffering is~
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wildeye99 Featured By Owner May 11, 2012  Student General Artist
such a great man.
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hanciong Featured By Owner May 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
he is not perfect, but yeah I agree :D
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johnfboslet2001 Featured By Owner Apr 19, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
There are some that i love listening to speak...Arthur C. Clarke, for example, and the Dalai Lama.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Apr 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D :D :D
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MantaTheMisukitty Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Buddhism is such a beautiful religion *__*
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hanciong Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
it is :D :D
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Dasha444 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
"The religion of the future will be a cosmic religion. It should transcend personal God and avoid dogma and theology. Covering both the natural and the spiritual, it should be based on a religious sense arising from the experience of all things natural and spiritual as a meaningful unity. Buddhism answers this description. If there is any religion that could cope with modern scientific needs it would be Buddhism."
-Einstein :)
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spark10010 Featured By Owner Sep 24, 2013  Student Artist
Wow!!  Thank you for sharing that lovely quote from a wonderful man.
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Dasha444 Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Always happy to throw some wisdom out there ;) It's so true....
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hanciong Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D :D
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Dasha444 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Yeah, rumor has that Einstein was pretty smart ;)
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Professional Photographer
Now I'll refer people to this when I want to prove Buddhism is awesome, thanks for making my life easier :D
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D :D :D not all Buddhists have such way of thinking, unfortunately.
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bishamon7ten Featured By Owner Apr 11, 2012  Professional General Artist
Maybe be they are beginners
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hanciong Featured By Owner Apr 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
they are the people who merely follow other people without studying buddhism itself
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Professional Photographer
Yeah, unfortunately, there are idiotic Buddhists as well out there, good thing they're quite few though.
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Gravity-is-Optional Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
Good on him. Also, great pic.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanx :D
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BanzaiSquirrel Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012
Very cool!
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanx :D
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NotaMeme Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
Proof Buddhists are awesome
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D
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KCammy Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
I have immense respect for Buddhists like this man. My RE teacher last year, in fact, was a Buddhist.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 21, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:D :D
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mongoose64 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
Both as really like this. Both as a Christian and Buddhist:).
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Tacimur Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some faith in humanity was restored today.
It's still a bit too comfortable to demand science debunk some religious claims instead of the religion proving them true in the first place... but still, this is way better than what we get from the Abrahamic religions.
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RizaHokai Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012

Your signature made this comment particularly enjoyable.
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Tetrigon Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
Karma << Has been tested and debunked yet it is still a big part of Buddhism

Just thought I'd point it out.
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Professional Photographer
Karma simply refers to cause and effect, action and reaction (albeit also on a more spiritual scale, not just physical). And as far as I know, it's a basic rule in physics...
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Tetrigon Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012
Physics doesn't apply to what is essentially luck. The only way that would work is if Karma only applied to those whom you have interacted with. As in, you punch someone and they'll get you back for it. But that isn't the case with karma since one event can be the catalyst for another that is completely unrelated. Even if karma was limited like that it wouldn’t work because that means the person who was punched will always retaliate which isn’t how that works.
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Professional Photographer
I don't think you get what Karma is about.
One event as a cause doesn't mean the effect will be a single event, it's not what karma's about. It just means everything you do affects your life for better and for worse. If you kill someone, most chances are you'll get caught and thrown to jail, maybe executed, or the very least, you'll go into hiding. Either way, your life is affected negatively by it. If you work hard, most chances are you'll end up in a good college, and get a job you want. It does NOT mean if you punch someone today, then someone, sometime in the future will punch you.
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hanciong Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
what part of karma has been debunked by science? as far as I know, science has not proven or disproven anything about karma yet
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2012
Would be impressive, if not for a few things Hitchens had to say about Buddhism and dalai lama...
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012  Professional Photographer
To be honest, I don't think he really studied Buddhism, or he wouldn't be making claims such as Hirohito being a Buddhist, when Buddhism was banned in the Emperor's palace since Meiji, and was purely Shintoist. Buddhist texts have no concept of holy war, no killing and no hurting of ANY living being, not just humans, unlike religions like Islam where you have a concept of holy war, and you're actually encouraged to kill infidels. Just because some murderers and and rapists happen to be Buddhist, doesn't mean they did it because of Buddhism. If anything, Buddhism actually changes any sutra that can be interpreted in a way that would cause harm to any living being. If anything, it's probably the only "religion" that actually calls for equality and respect between all humans. Sorry, but I don't think he actually studied Buddhism, or he wouldn't actually make such claims.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Mar 22, 2012
The claims he made were particular to the Dalai Lama, not Buddhism. Perhaps you should have read up on what he actually said.
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fantasiaart93 Featured By Owner Aug 7, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
Look my friend l'm buddhist and i never suported Dalai Lama or any buddhist politicals because i read about Buddhism and Buddha didn't want to make a religion or to be in power never said that and he was against violence the only thing he he did is teaching others to follow thier own pass he even said do not believe in him if we don't have our logic or sense l wish this may be helpfull.
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012  Professional Photographer
No, he didn't, he claimed Buddhism is just as bad as monotheistic religions by quoting some asshole Buddhists, but nice try though (maybe you should read more carefully next time?).
TO be honest, he acts exactly like the religious people he's trying to condemn (as well as many other atheists), claiming their way is the only true way. However, what's funny though is that Buddhists are technically atheists, there's no deity in Buddhism. But nooooo, they have slightly different world view, how dare they? they must be evil -_-' Stalin was an asshole, but you don't see me claiming all atheists are bad :/
Buddhism is just about living a happy life, and thinking for yourself, which is what most atheists claim, yet, they rely on what "preachers" like Dawkins and Hitchens say.
Funny he mentions Zen Buddhism, since the most famous Zen quote is "if you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him"
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Mar 23, 2012
In my experience, all religion, regardless of its tenets, is poisonous. It allows people to do things on an unfalsifiable merit; faith.
He's hardly as bad as the people he consistently condemns. The people he condemned were fanatics, oppressive tyrants and bullies. None of that really applied to Hitch.

To claim that Stalin was an atheist, ergo atheism leads to evil, is a natural fallacy. It's jumping to conclusions, which is why sensible people don't do it. Claiming that religion leads to destructive behaviour? Provable and real.

As for "preachers"- Dawkins and Hitchens are controversial even within the atheist community. Some dislike what they see as strident, impolite speech; in their eyes they do atheism no favours. And I seriously doubt you'll find many religious preachers urging people to think critically and think for themselves- neither of the two claim to be holders of universal truth. That sort of arrogant claim is reserved for the religious.
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Delahkel Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012  Professional Photographer
Have you actually met any Buddhist? come on, think for yourself, instead of following "the atheist way" of condemning anything that has the word religion in it. If anything Buddhism is all about observation and science. It's all about being an individual, sorry, but you need to study Buddhism before you talk (write?).

Uhm, yeah, that's my point, you can't condemn something based on the acts of the few. Saying all religion is destructive is just plain ignorant. Have you heard of a Buddhist holy war? or a Jainist one? If anything, Buddhism actually teaches you to seek the truth no matter what, it actually not only supports, but encourages science, and it even encourages one to be himself. Oh, but it can be labeled as religion, so it MUST be bad, destructive, mind washing crap -_-'

lol, if anything, Buddhists are more individual than your typical atheist.
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Greatkingrat88 Featured By Owner Mar 24, 2012
There is no "atheist way". There are atheists.
As for condemning, you generalize in saying atheists condemn anything related to religion. That is a cruel, uninformed and inflammatory position to take.
As for buddhism- buddhism, like any religion, follows a superstitious, unfalsifiable system. Any such system invariably ends up poisonous; that is testable and provable.

In the case of Stalin, it is NOT "acts of the few". His atheism was irrelevant to his monstrosity- he did what he did because he was paranoid, insane and power mad. He could have been a christian, muslim, or even a buddhist, and it would not have changed who he was enough to make a difference.
Religion quite clearly accentuates and inflames destructive behaviour. We would still fight one another without it, but we would have one less reason to hate. Had buddhism the numbers, it would quite likely have caused more than its share of religiously motivated wars.

Prove it. Atheism in any religiously dominated country is usually the result of critical thinking, skepticism and an individual strong enough to defy the norm. Prove to me, then, that buddhism- whose focal point, like any religion, is to conform to a shared set of values- makes a person more indivdualist than an atheist. It seems unlikely to me.
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